He lied about calling the police on pedophiles. Our elders told us last summer that they have no say over the matter. That if there were pedophiles in the congregation, all they could do is report it to the headquarters and it would be up to them to do whatever they deem fitting. And whatever the headquarters decide, they would have to go along with it. Liars, liars, liars!!!
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Awarded a Badge of Honour - I'm an 'Apostate'
by Joe Grundy in(i never was a jw).. just had a d2d (fs) visit.
older guy (said he's been in since 1958 and is an elder) with a younger guy (20 or so).
looking out at the street i obviously drew the short straw because further down the street was a pair of not unattractive younger women jws.
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IS THIS SICK? LYING TO DISABLED CHILDREN!!
by Bloody Hotdogs! inhas anyone watched the videos for children on jw.org?
i feel sick.. in one video a little girl dreams about paradise: the blind can see again, the deaf can hear again, and of course, she gets to hug a cute little panda cub.
not until the end of the video is her wheelchair revealed.
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It is disgusting! We just arrived home from visiting my handicapped sister who is a fulltime resident in a home for the disabled. I noticed there were fifteen watchtowers and a huge silver bible on her shelf. There's a sister who picks her up most Sundays and takes her to the meetings and then brings her straight home afterwards. No time for a little stop along the way to get a coffee to go or anything.
Her husband is an ms so I figure for sure she's counting all these placements and time. None of us want my sister at the meetings but she will say yes to anything. If it were raining out and you said it was sunny out she would say yep. Her caregivers don't want her going either. I'm her living power of attorney and I don't even have any say.
However, I did write JWFacts, JWSurvey and JWNet on all the magazines, I was so ticked off. Why? My sister could never read or write. She has cerebral palsy and can comprehend things at the age of a four year old. So why all these study articles as well as a huge bible??? She can't read, period. Her eyes shake nonstop, plus, she has a rare eye disease where she is almost blind. Not even the simplified addition was given to her. It was so stupid, my husband and I just couldn't stop laughing. Next Sunday she is going to raise her hand and give one comment at the watchtower. JWFACTS!!!!!!
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A powerful JC recording from 1984!
by Island Man inthis jc from 1984 features a brother and his wife, who were evidently about to be df'd for apostasy.
but the brother knew his ttatt well.
the elders really couldn't muster any half-way convincing arguments to refute the damning facts on 607 and 1914. even 1975 was touched on.
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She didn't get a call in two months to see how they were doing. We didn't get a call or visit for a year. Our lame brain elders tried to say they sent me out an email and later changed it to they sent it out to someone but they weren't sure who. One email in a year!(That's on tape as well) Lurkers if your listening to this, please do your research. And if you want to go to your judicial then make sure you tape it. They will not df you once they know they have been taped.
I have recently sent out two letters of the society's changes, misquotes ect,,, to my body of elders and all they did was give a special talk and warn people of those who leave the organization because of one little change, not to talk to them. They said that if those who do that can leave that quickly then they weren't deeply spiritually rooted in the truth in the first place. They also got a carbon copy of my manuscript that bethel sent them and still nothing.
I believe once they know you have recorded them especially if they were dirty as in our case, they do not want it going public. Their behaviour as well as the cult's doctrines would make them look like silly fools that they are.
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We're not dealing with sincere anointed who genuinely believe their teachings but scam artists
by truthseeker inlooking at all the doctrinal teachings over the last five years, it's almost impossible for any person of conscience who originated such doctrine to do a complete u-turn and change it when the passage of time has proved beyond doubt that doctrine is no longer credible.. i say this with reference to the generation of 1914. they were so sure.
it was part of the awake!
masthead for decades that those who saw the events of 1914 would also see the great tribulation.. .
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Like the one elder said at my judicial meeting and I have it on tape: Our magazines are half truths. Then the other elder says: That's right. The watchtower doesn't have all the answers. Unbelievable and shameful! But they were still proud of the organisation they represent. Their words not mine.
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How Do You Answer Someone Who Says JWs Are Not False Prophets?
by minimus init used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.
how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.
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Minimus, glad you posted this. I had an elder tell us the watchtower has never ever called themselves or others prophets. Nor will they ever do that. This man is truly a nice man and wouldn't hurt anyone. The elders had put him on us to answer any questions we might have and each time he couldn't answer them but never ratted us out. His assignment was to be in charge of the library at the back(shows you what these idiots thought of him) which was full of outdated publications that went back to the early 1930's. It was fun to watch him work hard yet I wanted to cry at what this wicked org was doing to decent people such as him. He was a very sincere man. Time to give him a visit:)
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I have nothing left in the tank, I need help
by Yondaime ini dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore.
i'm literally on the sound system list every week.
i'm either reading on sunday or tuesday, praying on tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system, or doing last minute parts for the service meeting.
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Tell them your doing the best you can and if that doesn't work then tell others in your congregation how you love college and how everyone should get an education. They'll have no choice but to take your "priveleges" away from you.
We had an ms in the hall that was going to college for four years and the cooridinator told him not to make that public or they would have to remove him from being an ms. After he was done school, they made him an elder. Not to mention he had only been reinstated four years after being df'd. If they like you, they really like you but if they don't like you then they will do what ever they want. This guy was made an elder at twenty-four years of age. Really sad. With less priveleges you will have more time for your career.
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Inactive for how long?
by Powermetal4ever inas the title says: how long does it take to be inactive in fs before some elders comes knocking on the door?
or calling or whatever... any experiences?
how was it for you guys?
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We had not recieved one phone call or visit for well over a year. And even then it was an elder and his wife just passing through and wanting to buy some meat from us. On my judicial hearing tape, he admitted to saying he thought that was a shepherding call that day. He was here for five minutes and not once spoke to me but sent his wife up to the house for a quick little shit chat. When I told him that I didn't even get one phone call said he thought he sent out an email to someone's address. His exact words and they are on tape.
The only reason they gave us that visit was because they knew we found out about them covering over this one guy in the congregation and the co was coming in a few weeks so they had to make us look like dirt before they looked like dirt first. We hadn't been out in service for almost a year and still no phone call for our time. It all depends on how quiet you stay and don't rock the boat with any of them. Then again, they are all a bunch of dingadongadongadingas. With no educational training but the watchtowers, they certainly can be drama pricks or like Bluesbrothers experience- a no show.
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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!
by hardtobeme init has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.
he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.
if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".
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It's not new. Three years ago they were doing this. So the elder would put the groups together and then off to lunch.
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If there were no faithful and discreet slave until 1919,then what would the witnesses say if you were to show them these scriptures?
by label licker inrevelation 1:1 a revelation by jesus christ which god gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.
and he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave john,.
jude 1 jude, a slave of jeus christ .
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LOL! DD, it was just yesterday you were asking for scriptures on inactive ones. I thought this was a site where we could post questions about the bible or is it just to talk about stupid tight pants. If a jw is starting to wake up, it will be because of thought provoking questions that jw.org never taught them and will make them question what they have been learning instead of name calling and tearing down.
Maybe you would be out of the religion sooner had you asked more questions. It worked for us:)
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If there were no faithful and discreet slave until 1919,then what would the witnesses say if you were to show them these scriptures?
by label licker inrevelation 1:1 a revelation by jesus christ which god gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.
and he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave john,.
jude 1 jude, a slave of jeus christ .
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Revelation 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ which god gave him, to show his SLAVES the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs through him to his SLAVE John,
Jude 1 Jude, a SLAVE of Jesus Christ
2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a SLAVE and apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have obtained a faith, held in equal privilege with ours, by the rightousness of our God and Savior Jesus Chist. (which in Revelation 1:5 states Jesus Christ as the Faithful Witness)
James 1:1 James, a SLAVE of god and of the Lord Jesus Christ
Titus 1:1 Paul, a SLAVE of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ according to the faith of God's chosen ones and the accurate knowledge of the truth which accords with godly devotion
1 Thessalonians 1:3 Paul, Silvanus, Timothy reminding the congregation of their faithful works and then in verse 9 how they first entered in among the people and how they turned to god from their idols to SLAVE for a living and true god.
Colossians 1:7 Epaphras our beloved fellow SLAVE who is a FAITHFUL minister of the Christ on our behalf, who also disclosed to us love in a spiritual way.
Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timothy, SLAVES of Christ Jesus,
Romans 1:1 Paul, a SLAVE of Jesus Christ and called to be an apostle,
Look at all the faithful ones in Hebrews chapter 11 and didn't they slave for the better life to come?
When I show these scriptures to jw's, they either have never seen that before about the faithful slaves or I'm told that's not what that means. By the way, as I was reading Hebrews 11:16, it reads: For now they are reaching out for a better place, that is, one belonging to heaven. How could that be if they weren't annointed or baptized according to the jw's? Jesus had not come yet so why would they think they would be going to heaven and not think they would look forward to the ressurection? Show that one to the witnesses along with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob going to heaven, Matthew 8:11.(Sorry, I went off from the first question about the faithful and discreet slave to another question that popped out at me just now in Hebrews)
Sheesh! You start on one journey and it leads to more questions.